Now I’m just P—ed Off!

by Cliff Ravenscraft on January 6, 2009 · Comments

Note: Two updates have been made to this post since it was first published!

For any of this to make sense to you, you need to read my prior two posts titled “In The Hospital” and “Scheduled For Surgery – But Frustrated.”

So yesterday, I explain that I was slightly annoyed and a bit frustrated. And anyone who knows me, knows that I’m not one to openly come out in public with a swear word. But this morning I am PISSED!

So I finally got to talk to a doctor this morning who had seen some results of my tests. He understood my concern as to why I didn’t want to sign off on the surgery. This doctor was very nice, as nice as the first two doctors that I’ve seen. What did this doctor say different than the other two doctors? NOTHING!!! I found it interesting that this third doctor drew me some diagrams to help explain what he was talking about with bile duct blockage.

Of course I’d already researched all of these things on a half a dozen medical sites on the net. What else am I supposed to do with days in bed with a computer hooked up to the internet?

So when this doctor explained that what they would like to do, would be to have an ERCP to clear any debris from the the bile duct prior to surgery so that they could simply go in and remove the gallbladder, I asked him why I was never scheduled for an ERCP when both prior doctors had told me that was their plan all along.

He told me…. “I guess with so many doctors involved things must have got confused.” THIS PISSES ME OFF! I’ve been in this hospital since Saturday! I’ve not eaten anything since Friday at 7pm. Unless you include the four Italian ices that I’ve had the past two days.

Yesterday, my doctor told me that I was supposed to be scheduled for an ERCP TODAY and I WAS TOLD that they would try to schedule my surgery to remove my gallbladder in the afternoon. If not, my surgery for the gallbladder would be tomorrow (Wednesday).

So the doctor today confirmed my suspicion that today’s scheduled surgery without having an ERCP was an oversight! A PRETTY DARN BIG ONE IF YOU ASK ME! Seeing as how an obstruction in the bile duct left untreated could cause pancreatitis and could even be fatal.

So guess who IS NOT scheduled for surgery today? That’s right! Me! NO SURGERY TODAY!

The doctor then told me that it is likely that the GI doctors would simply come in and “talk to me” today. He further told me that they would likely schedule the ERCP tomorrow (Wednesday) and then the surgery to remove my gallbladder either THURSDAY OR FRIDAY!

Sure, I understand my health is more important than anything. Sure I understand I’m just supposed to hang in here. Sure I know that it’s just a good thing that I’m here and that this didn’t happen when I’m in Vegas. Sure I understand how blessed that this happened at the first of the year and not at the end of December or my deductible of $3,000 would be due twice! Sure I know all these things.

BUT I’m STILL PISSED!

I recognize this post is COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER for me! Many of your are likely shocked to read that I’ve even written a post such as this. No I’m not on any medications for pain while writing. I’m just really upset that I’m adding a minimum of an additional two days into this month before I can get back to doing something to earn money for my family and to pay the bills for the business and the family that I was going to do this past Saturday.

Just very upset at the incompetent care that I’ve been given to this point. I could sugar coat it and put a positive spin on it and I could try to be more encouraging and inspiring. However, like everyone else, there are times that I simply get angry and this is one of those times.

1st Update 1/6/09 11:00am

Melinda Wrote: I can’t imagine that in your frustration and anger you treated your doctor in a disrespectful manner. i.e. calling him names, cursing at him, punching him in the face, etc. You are simply voicing your understandable frustration with this situation.

Melinda,

You are correct. In the midst of how I feel about the situation (I’m still angry), I’ve been nothing but respectful to my doctors and to my nurse staff.

The head of the nurse department nurse came in about 30 minutes ago and asked how things were going. Talk about Bad timing on her part. Again, I was extremely respectful to her and even said that the nurse staff had treated me rather well since I’ve been here.

I explained to her what had happened. She read all the doctor’s reports and it appears that it was my doctor from yesterday that made this oversight. You may recall that I told you that even she told me that she’d get the results of the MRCP and would likely schedule me for an ERCP in the morning and if possible, a laproscopic surgery to remove the gallbladder right after if possible. If not, the surgery would likely be Wednesday.

Seeing as how my laproscopic procedure was scheduled as late as 2:30pm, it seems to me that she simply “FORGOT” to do the write up for the ERCP.

I asked this head of the nurse department if there was anyone in this hospital who could hear about what had happened to me to see if we can get them to expedite my consult and possibly get me into the schedule this afternoon for the ERCP seeing how this was an oversight.

She’s doing what she can to see if this is possible. Until I hear back on whether my ERCP is definitely happening or not happening today, I can’t even have the clear liquids that I had the past two days. I’ll keep you posted!

Someone send me a direct message on Twitter saying:
I am praying for you and your family. I am glad you knew to NOT sign the surgery release, I would have no idea to do that! God IS in control.

Indeed, God is in control. I’m very thankful that He gave me the wisdom to ask these questions, to take control of the situation, and to not trust people who consider me to be a complete stranger with my overall well being.

If anything, I hope this serves as a reminder to folks that if you have medical issues, you should take special care to be as involved as possible with what is being done with your care. Nobody out there is going to care more about you than you do for yourself.

One side note that I didn’t mention earlier.. Last night, I told my 2nd shift nurse I was not going to sign the form for the surgery. You could tell that she’d never been refused before. She said, “are you sure you don’t want to just sign the form, we can still call for the doctor to come see you in the morning.” I said “No” very respectfully. I explained that my surgery was late enough in the day that they would have time to see me in the morning, have me sign the form and then do the paperwork.

2nd Update 1/6/09 12:10pm

Just when I thought things couldn’t get worse, they got worse, then better, then worse again. Let me explain.

So the nurse from my GI doctor’s office (I’ve seen him for GERD in the past) came in and saw me. She explained that my GI doctor does not do ERCP’s but that they had contacted a doctor that does do them. She explained that she left a message for this doctor and that he should call back immediately.

She went on to tell me about the fact that my MRCP results showed no blockage in the common bile duct, however they did see some debris in the cystic duct that could be cause for concern. She explained that out of the endoscopy procedures they do, this is the only one where they warn of possible death. She continued to say a lot of scary things about the fact that the scope used has a camera on the side instead of at the tip which means that the doctor is going down sort of blind until he gets where he needs to go. Said that it is possible that there could be tearing of tissue, bleeding, infection, pancreatitis, hepatitis, etc, etc, etc…

Lovely right? Yeah, she said possible death! (This is where it got even worse!)

So after the fun pep talk. She checked her voice mail. She actually let me listen to the whole thing after she listened to it. Turns out that this doctor, who’s supposedly the best at this surgery, says that from the two imaging tests, there did not seem to be anything in the common bile duct. He said that the report shows some “stuff” (Can’t remember the medical names) in the cystic duct but the results are underwhelming at best for a stone. His feeling was that I probably passed the stone. He said they should go ahead and do the gallbladder surgery and that they could do (something medical with a baloon) to test for blockage in the cystic duct while in there and if there was an issue, he could do an MRCP on the cystic duct after the fact, but he didn’t feel that there was any reason to put me through the RISK OF THIS SURGERY with what he has seen.

(That is when it got even better) This was the FIRST TIME I’d had a DOCTOR talk to me about the actual MRCP test results. And well, heck, it wasn’t even TO ME. It was on a voice mail to a nurse. But I understood what the guy was saying. He was saying that he felt that I was pretty much okay in that area based on the test results and that laproscopic gallbladder surgery is the best option in his opinion.

So this nurse from my GI Doctor’s office went to go and see if they could get me back in for my scheduled surgery at 2:30pm today. She came in about twenty minutes later and told me that she spoke to this Male surgeon that came in and saw me today. She told me that he told her to tell the GI Doctor that he is certain that there is an issue with my common bile duct and to schedule the MRCP.

Now, up to this point EVERYONE who had seen my test results told me there was nothing wrong with my COMMON bile duct. So did the nurse misspeak? Doesn’t matter, I’m told this doctor that left that voice mail will be the one doing the MRCP and that he will be in to see me. From what I understand, his visit will be today and that they are currently trying to get me in for an MRCP today.

So now I’m going in for what is a super risky procedure that they tell you has all these possible issues, including death. Of course I shared this with Stephanie and I don’t think she wanted to hear that. Things are pretty rough at home with the kids worried about dad. Stephanie is worried about me. And I’m sitting here all alone dealing with this crap on an empty stomach.

I’m going to stop for now and go spend some time in prayer.

—- I take that back. As soon as I hit save, a lady came in to draw blood. Because of how uptight I am, not veins were to be found. She poked me twice with a needle and then resorted to a finger stick. Man what a lousy day. My spirit is crashing.

3rd Update 1/6/09 1:26pm

Linda G. posted a comment on Facebook:
“I dont understand why they cannot do a Cholangiogram (sp) while they are removing your gall bladder? Thats where they look into & flush out all the bile ducts while they are in there. That’s what they should do, then there will be no need for an ERCP before or after the surgery.”

This is exactly what the doctor on the voice mail said that he suggested. When comes in, you can bet that I’ll be asking about that and whether or not his advice had been voiced to the doctor. Is it too much to ask these two doctors to speak to each other?

Anyway… I reached out to my wife and explained that I was feeling alone here. She’s getting some help from those in our church so that she can come and be with me. I hate to make her go through these extra steps, but I really feel like having her here will help me calm down just a little.

Still no word from the doctor.

4th Update 1/6/09

I’m feeling a lot more at ease that I was during my last update. I’ve now seen the GI doctor I spoke of above. He and I had a good long talk about the procedure and his feelings about whether or not it was needed. His feelings are that on his scale, he doesn’t think the results of the tests warrant the ERCP procedure. However, at the same time, he said, while there are some serious risks involved, he doesn’t feel as though he’d be doing the procedure for nothing. There is stuff he could do to clear out anything in the duct once in there that would help protect from things happening in the future.

When it was all said and done. I’m on this doctor’s side saying that it is likely that I don’t need this procedure and he was going to try to talk the other doctor out of it. However, at the same time, he said that if the other surgeon insists on the ERCP, he’ll do it as long as I don’t object. He said that either way, he’s scheduling the ERCP procedure tomorrow morning as it is easier to cancel a procedure than to make an appointment for one.

He said he should hear from the surgeon tonight and he’d let me know whether or not I’m going to be doing the ERCP. Out of any of the doctors I’ve seen so far, I trust this doctor. He made me feel calm and he spoke to me as though I was a human and not a number. That felt good. I told him that I would go through with the ERCP procedure “if HE felt I needed it” after talking with the surgeon.

So that’s where I am. Now that I look back. I’m wondering if the doctor that I saw yesterday actually overlooked anything at all. I’m wondering if she saw the results of the two tests and decided the ERCP simply wasn’t needed and that’s why she only scheduled the gallbladder removal. And well, I would have been cool with that, I just wanted them to tell me that’s what happened today.

But when they through this third surgeon from that same office, I think he may have been busy today, called to come talk to me, and simply told me what I wanted to hear. In a way, I’m wondering if anything I shared about how the prior two doctors didn’t mention this “3rd option” of not worrying about blockage caused him to simply have a strong stance on making sure that I got the ERCP that he then “maybe PERCEIVED that I definitely wanted to happen.”

This has all been so much to take in really.

I hated to bother Stephanie as I know all this has been hard on her. I sent her a message after my last update and told her that I was really upset. This was before the “good doctor” came to visit me. I was in tears when I sent it. Since then, Stephanie came to visit with me, my real dad came to visit with me, and Jeremy L came to visit with me. Overall, I’m feeling a whole lot better about the ERCP “IF I HAVE TO HAVE IT.” I’m sure that I have enough people praying that the possible side effect of “death” won’t occur! Okay, so even if you don’t believe in God, please just do me a favor this one time… Please just pray… “Hey Guy, Girl, or Whatever up there that I don’t believe in… in the slight off chance that I’m wrong and you do exist, please help Cliff through this risky procedure if he has to have it.” -LOL

That’s all for now. I’m exhausted!

Oh, and hungry!

And hey… If you are having a surgery that “may cause death,” should you get to choose your last meal?

So obviously, you can tell people have been praying for me and my spirit’s are back up!

Final Update 1/6/09

The GI doctor called me back as promised. He said that we are definitely a go for the ERCP tomorrow morning at 7:30am. I really trust this doctor and I told him that if he felt that it was the right thing to do, then I would do it. I told him if he didn’t think it was the right thing to do, to tell me and I would not do it.

Obviously I don’t know the conversation between the GI Doctor and the Surgeon. I just know the result is that I understand what the procedure is and that after the conversation, the GI doctor feels that doing to the procedure is in my best interest in his opinion.

If you’re up that early, please say some prayers for a very successful procedure. Please also pray that while they have me under, that they change my IV at that time. It should be easier for them to stick me when I’m not awake. At least I would hope. After the ERCP, then I hope they will be able to get me right in to get my galbladder out. If not, I may have to wait another day to get that scheduled.

Folks, I must admit that I have a bit of anxiety about the procedure in the morning. However, I have a faith in a God who knows the plans He has for me.

I love my wife and my children!

  • Mariana
    Been on my mind today, Cliff. I know you'll sail through with flying colors with all the love and prayers. You're going to be feeling much better really soon! Yay! :)
  • Keary Naughton
    Cliff- I am thinking about you today and hoping everything goes well
  • Richard Emblem
    It's not that early here in England and I am praying for you, your family and the medical staff. God bless.
    Richard
  • I hope everything goes well, you will be on my mind tomorrow. I'll pray for you during your surgery if I can remember. I was thinking about you a lot today when I kept telling myself "Cliff would of loved to hear about the last Apple Keynote"
  • You will be in my thoughts tonight and tomorrow. Finally, you are on the road to recovery.
  • Amy Wright
    I will be up that early & will be praying! Get a good night's rest!
  • anissa chard
    Cliff, My prayers will be with you and your family always. I know you don't know me but you and Stephanie have helped me in so many ways just by doing podcasts. My day is always better when I listen to both of your words. I hope they can give you something to help you sleep tonight. Take care.
  • JeffInIndy
    Cliff, I will be up then, and I will be praying. We'll see you on the other side of the surgery!
  • still praying! love ya man!
  • Amy Wright
    Wow, is all I can say! Many, many, many prayers are being said by me for you & your family! Hang in there buddy! :)
  • Mariana Evica
    Phew, I'm feeling better about how things are going for you now. I agree that it has served several excellent purposes to blog about this. Great documentation ("just in case", for the record) and it has been good for *you* to be able to share. I hope you feel enfolded by the prayers and concern for you. I'll keep you and your family in my heart.
  • Barbara
    Hey Cliff - It's Barb from Skenectady!!! You, Steph and the kids have been in my thoughts via every Tweet I have read as well as this blog. I know some of what you are going through. When I was pregnant with my last son, the last three months I started to bleed. I was in and out of the hospital for days at a time and not one doctor had a clue, idea or anything about what my body was doing with this child inside. I was scared, crying, and an emotional wreck. It was not until one last visit before I actually had him that a STUDENT INTERN came in and actually talked to me like I was not crazy and I was a person. No she didn't have all the answers but she calmed me and made me feel all would be ok. You will be fine and I believe that!!!
    I have a needle issue too and I have solved that. Anytime I go for blood at a place I am not familiar with I tell them you have one shot at this and your done if you blow it!!! When I go to the lab for my routine bloodwork the receptionist says "I know you only want Mike!!"
    Sorry so long - get well soon. Hug the kids and Steph from your "imaginary" and far away friend. LOL
    Barb
  • Krissy
    Cliff,
    Been reading these updates all morning. I can't believe you have been getting the run around like that. Glad to hear your spirits are up now though and you have some food ;)
    Praying that your surgery goes well!
    Krissy
  • Sarah Smith
    Hi Cliff,

    My husband and I are praying for you! I can't fathom your frustration and distress. We will be praying for Stephanie and the kids too.

    God Bless you.

    Sarah Smith (big fan of the Weekly Lost Podcast, and you guys in general!)
  • Cliff I have to say that it's a hard thing to speeck up for your self when you don't feel good. so I'm very happy that you had a good head on when you were talking to all these people.

    I think this is a good Idea to be able to blog what you have been told and what you can remember so if there are questions after the fact you have them all down. Great job.
  • I'm saying a prayer for you and adding a little extra prayer for some food. For you, as opposed to me. The food is for you! ;-)
  • Shelly in GB
    Cliff,

    I read your post a little while ago and just read your most recent update. I'm so glad that you're feeling better after talking to this other doctor. Isn't it amazing how sometimes we click with certain people in these helping roles because they seem to understand where we're coming from. I'm glad that Stephanie and others were able to come be with you during the time you really needed it.

    Good luck and I'll be thinking about you (and praying). :)

    Shelly
  • Joyfulmomlea
    Cliff & Stephanie,
    I'm praying for you & the kids. I'm so thankful you have a great church family to help out. If there's anything we can do, let us know...we are only a couple hours away.
    Praying,
    Lea
  • Melinda O'Brien
    Hang in there Cliff. I think you're making great decisions. I'm so glad you have your church family to help out, as many of us would do if logistically possible.

    Continued prayers,

    Melinda
  • Wow Cliff, I can't even begin to imagine what and your family are going through. After reading your post and the comments I have to agree with the last few. Is there an option to transfer? After all the confusing and not talking to each other, I don't think I would feel comfortable letting any one of those "surgeons" operate on me. We will be praying for you, Steph, and the kids! We are all here for you when you need to vent! Keeping it inside is the worst thing you could do right now.
  • Denyse
    Cliff,
    I'm so sorry this is all happening to you. I am praying for you and the medical staff at your hospital. Get well soon.
    Denyse
  • Shawn Degnan
    Hang in there Cliff... God is in control...

    Shawn
  • Cliff,

    Can you request to go to a different hospital????
  • Cliff,

    I can only imagine your frustration (and I'm sure a little bit of fear). You are handling yourself much better than I expect I would - your patience and focus is outstanding, and I'm sure it will prove to be its own reward.

    It's fortunate you've got the 'net accessible and that you have the sense and confidence to ask the questions you are. (not to mention Stephanie and the Ravenskidlets to help refresh your spirits and give you support offline)

    My family and I hope that the stress and difficult times pass quickly for you and yours, and we look forward to the time (hopefully soon) when you can relegate this to simply a "good story" you share about "that time when..." .
  • Christy Ewers
    Hi Cliff -
    What a frustrating time! My prayers are sure with you and the family. I work in the health care field and I know how many flawed people work here too. Most have good hearts, many are overwhelmed with the amount that they have to do, etc. I'm glad you are asking alot of questions, that is definitely the best way to protect yourself. Also, i wonder if you could ask that nursing supervisor if you could just have one Dr. communicate with you from now on, even if just by phone - so you have one person to filter all the info through. I don't know if all these other Drs are from the same group, but it sounds like there has been a communication breakdown. I would try and nicely ask if you could just deal with one guy - whichever you have had the best communication with. Often I tell my patients that the best Dr. is the one they can talk to and understand....I don't know if that helps - wish you were here in one of the hospitals I work in and I could help more! And I hope Stephanie gets there soon. Keep the faith and I'll keep praying from California...
    Christy
  • Geoff Gentry
    Praying for you Cliff. When it rains it pours.
  • Cliff, I wish I could transport you here. I know the best gastrointerologist doctor in the world and he practices here. He saved my daughter's life twice, and when other doctors wanted to remove her colon, he gave her medications that save it from surgery. When other doctors told her that she would never conceive, he made sure to give the right meds to put her in remission. My granddaughter Meghan is the miracle this doctor enabled us to love.

    Keeping you and your family in my thoughts. Get better soon.
  • Cliff
    @Rob Blatt you wrote "Just be glad that they are catching things now rather than while having you open on a table."

    That's just it, they DIDN'T CATCH IT.. The only way that this was caught was due to the fact that I refused to sign the consent form before seeing a doctor who then confirmed the screw up.

    Otherwise, I would have gone into surgery with no mention of the MRCP they thought was so important.

    Now I'm waiting for a doctor who is supposed to do the MRC, who I heard in his own words say he doesn't think I need it.

    I have faith in doctors, but I also know they are human and I'm just a number to them. They've proven to me time and time again that I'm just a number.

    Numbers can get mixed up in people's minds!
  • mary lou
    i love you son, tell them you need some lunch .and not to fool with you today. love mom PS do not go on any hunger strike !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Cliff, seriously, if you need me to show up let me know, I can work beside you the entire time, heh... and besides it might be nice to have a friend beside you... and the sad thing, is from all the nurses that attend FUMC, all of them say to go to St. E.'s if there is ever something wrong with you... can you imagine what it is like in the other hospitals? Dang!

    BTW: The MacWorld Expo is going on right now, it might take your mind off of things.
  • Take some comfort in this. No one who has earned their stripes as a doctor will play dice with your life. Frustration is human. I don't think that anyone could ever blame you for boiling over when it comes to this. You've got your family that loves you and legions of fans that are wishing you well.

    Swear if you need to, but place some faith in the doctors who have worked their entire lives to be in the position to help you too. Just be glad that they are catching things now rather than while having you open on a table.
  • Cliff
    Please know that I'm thinking of you and your family. I will try and call you on the voice feed back line soon. I will also write you a e-mail when I get home. Keep a smile on your face, some times that helps.

    Tell the family that I am thinking of you guys.

    Mary
  • Cliff -

    Most hospitals have a patient ombudsman. So do most Health Insurance companies. You really ought to ask for these people to help you. It sounds like you're getting an undisciplined and disorganized mess of treatment plans, etc.

    Everybody who's hospitalized should have someone (other than themselves) available to advocate for the patient, to question the doctors, and to INSIST on complete and thorough information and explanations. Since Stephanie is busy with the kids, house, etc., perhaps you can call on a friend or other family member to take on this role....

    Trust in God is a good thing. For all others.. "trust but verify"... and don't hesitate to question things!

    Good luck. My prayers are with you!
  • Troy Price
    Man, you are a trooper! Know that we are thinking/praying for you down here.

    FYI: I hear that removed gall bladders sell really good on Ebay. You could be the leading Podcast Equipment and Useless Organ Supplier of 2009.
  • Cliff, I'm sorry that everything at the hospital has been one big screw-up, practically from the start. I'm prayerful that the most recent developments will lead to all of the DRs, RNs, and LVNs to get together on the same page.

    You know how they say "some day we'll look back on this and laugh"? Well, I think it will be a large number of years before you'll look back on this and laugh.

    On the plus side, sharing all of this with everyone will give us the knowledge to use, just in case any of us end up in a similar situation in a hospital.

    In the meantime, still praying that God will strengthen and comfort you and Stephanie and the kids, and that He will guide the medical staff in your care.

    Wayne
  • Mariana Evica
    After some prayer, I want to share something with you, a gut feeling. Cliff, I know you have your hands full, but please consider speaking with a knowledgeable lawyer, just to get an opinion. I think you are in a very vulnerable position right now, and possibly in danger (apologies for sounding alarmist!). I think you can expect continuing similar behavior and decision-making from this hospital, and that you may wish to consider another hospital. I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, but I'm deeply concerned that a) no one is advocating for you b) that what they have been doing is criminally negligent and c) that you may not be well-informed in some important regard (legally, medically, etc.) I will continue to pray for you.
  • Lindsay Johnson
    I know how you feel. I once went into the hospital for braxton hicks, and the doctors forgot to tell me I was being transferred to Arnold Palmer, until they were taking me to the transfer ambulance. I was like "Um, where are we going?" The medic told me... wow was I surprised. I ended up staying a month :( I am not a fan of hospitals.
  • Michelle
    I am sorry for the poor treatment you have been given and am praying for some solid decisions to be made and a speedy recovery.

    On a lighter note, if your treatment gets any worse, maybe you could have a lawsuit on your hands. You were praying for a mysterious source of instant income— this could be it! We all know that God works in mysterious ways. Sounds like a case for Eli Stone.
  • One more note—a positive note, as someone, like you, who is always watching her waist line and hardly seeing it shrink, think of the good news:

    Because you are not eating, you will be thinner.
  • Can you imagine the poor person who cannot fend for himself as well as you can? Can you imagine what the poor person who has no Internet to get educated by and has no way of voicing his or her concerns? I am so grateful that you are able to take control of your life and defend your rights and make sure your health is up to par. Some of these doctors should never been allowed to practice and the AMA protects them.

    I am not against doctors and the AMA. My son-in-law is a doctor. But I find it offensive that we must practically know as much as they know in order to make sure we get good care. That's what pisses me off about some of them.

    Cliff, you have every right to be mad. It's your body and your health and someone did not pay the attention that he or she should have done.

    I went through this when my mother-in-law was alive. She suffered from Alzheimer’s and couldn’t fend for herself and I am saddened to say that even if she did not have Alzheimer’s she would still not be able to fend for herself. Something is wrong with our health-care system. So, in essence, I applaud you for being pissed, for standing up for your rights, and for making sure your body gets the proper care.

    Hopefully, you will be over this hurdle soon enough and be back on your feet providing for your family while entertaining us.

    I am not a believer, but I pray that you get good care and get home soon to your family who needs you.
  • I have no idea how the logo I designed for my dad's company is on there...but hey, it works!
  • Cliff,

    What a bummer! Sorry it's such a trouble. You're in my prayers as always.

    Ultimately, you're the one who cares the most about your own health. It's hard to be an advocate when you're hungry and sick, but that's the way it goes. I do hope that things go more smoothly!!!

    It's okay to rant. It's YOUR blog!
  • Stephen Cross
    Much too often patients are passive in their medical care. Cliff, look out for yourself (and your family). Ask, ask, ask until you are satisfied.

    No lets get down to the real issue here... NO EATING SINCE FRIDAY!!!! :)

    Thoughts and prayers are with you.

    -S
  • Toni Briere
    Cliff,

    I can't believe the incompetence of the doctors and staff surrounding your illness! It's a good thing you have your computer there to look everything up and stay informed, because you would not otherwise be if it were up to them!

    Is there anywhere else you can go? Your doctors have neglected you and failed to "first do no harm" by keeping you there in pain, without food and doing unneccesary test on you. I've had to be an advocate for myself during hospital stays and it can be intimidating. I'm glad you stood up for and protected yourself.

    When I had my gall bladder taken out I was 6 months pregnant and had the big cut, but my doctor told me the options (try to keep it in or get it taken out) and I wanted the surgery so it was scheduled for that evening. I was miserable, they knew it and got me taken care of. It seems like your doctors are dragging their feet to keep you in there. That's NOT ethical. I agree with the person who said you should fight for not paying for unnecessary tests. Again, totally unethical.

    I'm mad with you and I'm praying that they take care of you the way you should be taken care of! And no need to apologize for the use of language, that's pretty tame given all you've gone through!

    One more thought, the more hydrated you are, the easier it is to get to your veins, so if you need more bloodwork, definitely stay well-hydrated! I'm guessing you have an IV, so that shouldn't be too difficult.

    Our Prayers are with you!
    Toni, Ali and Ani Briere
  • Ben
    Well Cliff... I'm pretty pissed off just reading your situation.... wishing I knew some people on the inside of St. E's....

    The level of incompetence is staggering. You are just a number.... a chart, that apparently they barely bother to read before they walk in the door of your room. Pathetic.
  • Amy Pearson
    Oh yeah, one other thing - if you would like to speak with someone about the quality of care you feel you have or have not received, ask if they have a "patient care advocate" or the equivalent. That would be the person the hospital has on staff to address and try to reconcile the issue. He/she would go through the proper channels so your concerns would get voiced to the proper people.
  • I pray you will get the proper care soon. Don't they realize you are on the verge of producing the the "Help I've got Medical Condition" podcast in the works?!
  • Amy Pearson
    Cliff,
    I totally understand your frustration. When Mike had his appendix out on November it always felt like it took forever to get results and we were moving in slow motion. Not to mention that his Grandpa died the day he went into the hospital, so I had absolutely NO help with my 3-year-old Twins for the first three days he was in the hospital. I think the fact that I work in medicine and he was hospitalized at the hospital I work at helped to move things along faster than they may have otherwise because I know who to talk to and what the procedure should be. I can totally see how frustrating it would be for someone with out medical back ground to be getting little to no information. The internet is a great help, but from my point of view it is scarey how much medical information is out there for the lay person. Much of it is accurate, but much more of it is not and much of it can be very scarey. I commens you for being unwilling to sign the consent before speaking to the surgeon. The surgeon should ALWAYS discuss the plan of action with you and let you know the possible risks and complications before you consent to surgery. Oh and if nothing else is going to be done today, I would see about getting at least a liquid diet sent up. It would probably, just be broth, tea, sherbert and the likes, but at least its something and had a little flavor. Keeping you in my thoughts and hoping all goes well.
    Amy
  • Tell it like it is brother. Shout it from the mountain top. It'll do you some good. I know you are frustrated as heck right now and you have every right to fell the way you do! Those docs don't sound like they have their act together and that is inexcusable! Cliff, you should continue to assert yourself and not proceed until YOU are satisfied that you have your questions answered! My gosh, it seems like those doctors owe you an apology for being so lackadaisical! We're all keeping you in our prayers and looking forward to your next rant! It makes great reading but I'm sorry it's at your expense! Go get em' tiger!
  • John Shaffer
    I agree with you and the other comments posted here. This is getting to be ridiculous that you haven't eaten and the incompetency of the staff at the hospital. You should no be having to do there job and find there mistakes. What next are they going to bring you in to the operating room and have you do the surgery yourself? (just a joke there). Hope you will get getting back home soon I am sure that Stephanie needs your help and I am sure you will rest better there then in the hospital.
  • FredFromLongIsland
    Writing to you from the orthodontist's chair. It's OK to express your reaction to this situation. I honestly believe the doctors' wait and see attitude when my wife had appendicitis caused them to wait until it began to burst. She required wound care from a visiting nurse for a couple of weeks after the surgery. It is definitely in your best interest for someone to be on your side keeping track of what's going on.

    Hang in there!
  • I would probably feel the exact same way as you if I were in in your shoes right now.

    I'm so sorry you're going through this, Cliff. I do hope things work out good for you soon.

    P.S. I could think of several stronger words than the one you chose. ;)
  • Melinda O'Brien
    Cliff, you have every reason in the world to be angry! What counts is what you do with your anger. Somehow, I can't imagine that in your frustration and anger you treated your doctor in a disrespectful manner. i.e. calling him names, cursing at him, punching him in the face, etc. You are simply voicing your understandable frustration with this situation. I'm sure that even your doctor would agree with your frustration. Thank God you had the sense to not sign off on the surgery for today.

    Keeping you and yours in my prayers,

    Melinda
  • Dude, I do not mind your rant at all... I think our medical care in this country is extremely flawed, and you just showed a great example.

    In this day and age of technology there should be no screwups, no oversights... I understand that humans can have errors, but really they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars... they better have their A-Game all time.

    I hope you get better man... I'm so sorry about CES. :(
  • JeffInIndy
    I'm not surprised at your tone or attitude. In fact, I'm glad that you're not letting them walk all over you. This is ridiculous.

    A Christian is supposed to turn the other cheek, but also defend themselves. And that includes from incompetence.

    Is anyone in the hospital concerned that you haven't eaten in almost 4 days? At what point are they going to allow you to eat? I don't think a week with no food is a good thing.
  • CJ
    Leave it to the American health care system to frustrate and madden even those with the most docile nature.
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